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受信者 rocboots : Thanks and to be honest it's only the next size up from the bottom grading which l can't remember as it was done over two years ago. lf you find a good piercer s/he will start you off from the smallest grade and then you work the next grade up and so on. You'll never start from a heavy grade first as it will be too painful as the initial hole will need to stretch grade by grade!
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